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PV Meet-up Gone Bad Emails

I want to present the full details available via emails to fully explain the sequence of events leading up to Evening Ransom producing the PV meet-up gone bad videos. There remain questions about exactly how things unfolded and what emails exist. As of today October 23, Kim Wilson has put of a "Narcissists: Obsessed, Envious, Disordered" video that is full of lies and completely contradictory to the emails she sent. Here I illustrate the full timeline and exchanges between Kim and Evening. I will also demonstrate how one can verify the integrity of an email by looking at your authenticated received chain headers.

The timeline starts with a cocktail party hosted by Evening at her room on Sunday September 16. Early in the morning of September 17, L and David have the first bad interaction. It is not until September 21 that Evening receives the first email indicating that a problem had occurred.

In the timeline, the first email thread is labelled with the green msg1 through msg5 boxes. Separate emails threads labelled t2_msg1 through t2_msg4, t3_msg and t4_msg1 through t4_msg2 are also shown. The bottom pink and purple boxes show when videos from Kim and Evening are being put up.

Timeline

Let’s begin with the first msg1:

This shows the full contents of the email as known by the email server. It includes a number of lines known as headers that provide metadata about the msg. These include lines like ARC-Seal:…, ARC-Authentication-Results:…, and DKIM-Signature:…, all of which provide an integrity check of the sender and the contents of the message. These can be used to verify that the message is valid and unmodified from the sender. This uses what are know as cryptographic signatures, a technology used pervasively to validate information content in everything from email to bitcoin, banking, and every secure connection made on the web. Every message I will show has this information available for validation by an expert witness in a court case. If you want to look into the details, I suggest starting with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authenticated_Received_Chain.

In the text of the emails that following, only Evening’s, Kim’s and David’s names are used. Other peoples names have been replaced with a single letter mnemonic. Kim's emails are shown in red text, Evening's emails are shown in blue text. My commentary on the thread continues in the black text as seen in this paragraph. Note that I have just watched Kim's latest video where she attempts to put a spin on what really happened. Frankly she has just dug a massive hole by introducing more inconsistencies between what she says in these emails and what she says in the video.

Now, the text of msg1 from Kim on Fri, 21 Sep 2018 18:10:49:

 

Hi Evening,

The girls and `I have been watching your videos pretty steady and we all

agree that you might be the best person to talk to.

We have had a very odd experience during this meet-up and we would all

like

very much to chat with you about it.

In total there are 5 of us, and we would be available to Skype, Zoom,

email, text....whatever works for you.

Please do not mention this email to anyone outside of this group of

women,

me, K, D, J and L.

If you are able to chat, I will forward their email addresses to you.

They

leave tomorrow, but could chat anytime once they arrive back home.

Thank you so very much

I hope to hear back from you soon

Kim

 

Ok, so something happened and Evening is being asked to help out on Fri Sep 21 at 18:10. Evening replies with msg1_reply:

 

Sure Kim. I'd be honored to talk to you guys. I ended up feeling

so bad

that I didn't even get a photo with you. I saw the ladies as your

clients

so didn't ask them for numbers or anything like that, but I did

hope that

they would at least find my videos at some point and say hello. I

am

really open in terms of time. I'm just home packing up my house

all day

every day!! I was trying to record a follow up video for my own

channel but

haven't even gotten to that so far. You can text me to get through

faster

if you want to. xxx-xxx-xxx.

Talk soon,

Evening

 

Kim responds with the following msg2 on Sat, 22 Sep 2018 12:20:18:

 

Hi,

Thank you so much for your reply.

Something very strange happened here. There was a super predator amongst

us.

L was aggressively attacked, sexually harassed in a very deviant

manner, held hostage, isolated, manipulated, screamed at, called names,

humiliated, threatened and all communication and interaction were

manipulated. Every attempt to get people together was controlled and

manipulated.

I want to fill you in, but this creepy narc freak was talking behind

everyone's back and pulling all the strings, I want to include everyone in

this conversation because after this covert manipulation I would not feel

OK mentioning anyone's name unless there was full transparency.

I don't want any part of talking behind anyone's back. So I am attaching

everyone, except for J because I can not find her email address. It is

somewhere, likely buried in a thread. But I hope someone will add her to

this thread and forward this email.

Something very strange just happened here in PV Evening, we all saw it, and

we think there is important info here, not to mention we just discovered a

super predator hiding amongst us.

What took our narcs years to achieve, this creep manage to pull off in a

matter of 24 hours.

This creep pulled strings to keep us all apart, isolate us from one another

and thou K was immediately alerted, it took the rest of us a few days

to realize what was happening. Thou ultimately it was L’s account of

what had happened to her that blew the lid off this entire event.

This is a pretty strange story Evening. They are genuine predators, they

are all working off a collective hive mind and thou it took several of us a

few days to see it, me included, a real monster just exposed itself in a

very public way. And I will admit that I was instantly confused by the

gaslighting and control tactics.

Thank God, most of my communication with the thing is in writing and now

screen saved.

Did you pick up any strange energy Evening?

Are you able to mediate this conversation?

I just want full disclosure and transparency between all of us, because

this creep just manipulated 9 people with total ease.

With best regards

Kim

 

Ok, without saying who exactly this "super predator" is, this email is already starting to completely contradict her "Narcissists: Obsessed, Envious, Disordered" video. First of all, if the initial interaction with David and L were as she described where David was looking for some Nirvana healing session with a group of victims, and L was some sex obsessed slut, there is no way that this email would not have questioned what happened. Second, instead of vouching for David in glowing terms as she does in the video, here she is claiming he is talking behind everyone's back and is asking Evening if she picked up on any strange vibe. How do these two things reconcile? Where is the mention of the message she says she got from David indicating that there was a problem with L? Where is the we need to get both sides of the story before rushing to judgement? No, Kim here is completely sold that L is telling the truth and that David is a "super predator".

Evening responds to Kim's email with two separate responses, msg2_reply1 on Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 6:25 PM:

 

When do you guys want to talk, and how should we go about it?

 

and msg2_reply2 on Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 6:47:

 

I don't know what took this email so long to show up as I've been looking

for it since you first mentioned this issue yesterday. I apologize if

you've been waiting on me. Now, if we are talking about David yes, I did

pick up on some very controlling and aggressive vibes. I had the

impression that he wasn't hanging out with you guys as much as you had

expected, and I was having such a hard time meeting back up with you that I

didn't know there was this much interaction between all of you or with

David. After hearing that he didn't help out with the airport transports

and all that and seeing that he did two lengthy videos from his room, it

looked like he was kind of doing his own thing, which given the male/female

ratio at the event I figured was probably the best thing. Please fill me

in on what happened and when.

Talk soon I hope,

Evening

 

Understand that the meet-up is over and we are all back home. Evening's comment about the male/female ratio is based on the fact that she never even knew there was another man at the meet-up until it was over. They met Kim and David for dinner on Friday, and said David seemed fine, but Kim was out of control being rude and obnoxious but they wrote it off to how “pissed” (drunk, they are Brits) she was, and expected to get a clearer impression of her over the next few days. Never did they expect that it would be impossible to connect with Kim again or to meet any of the other participants. They saw David on Saturday for lunch and were unable to connect with him again after that. We were in the hotel right next to them and never even knew it. They did not know about the party at my place on Sunday. The meet-up for them essentially amounted to a dinner Friday and a lunch Saturday, both were arranged by them. No more interactions with Kim and only rather shocking and rude interactions with David, but do not see them again, and never meet anyone else. At this point Evening believes David is the only man other than her husband who attended. )

Now a second email thread starts, on which the t2_msg1 from Kim beginning on Sun, 23 Sep 2018 08:36:04:

 

Good morning,

I believe that everyone but D made it home safely. She was bumped from

her flight, some silly issue about having to be sober on flights...LOL!

It took a little work to find her, but I did. I am picking her up this

morning and she will be staying here at my house, until we can get her

another flight, maybe Monday or Tuesday on Alaska!

But she is great, cheery as always, and I am happy to have a roommate for a

few days, so everything is good!

I agree with K 100%, this needs to be addressed, dealt with,

exposed....whatever it takes.

This is no garden-variety narc, this is a Super Predator.

This narc played us all, with the greatest of ease, moving us around like

chessmen. The level of covert manipulation was incredible to watch and gave

me a heightened level of insight, so I am not as bothered by that as much.

I am not happy about it, but L is the real issue here. It was like

watching the movie Gaslight, in real time. Truly amazing to watch first

hand.

My real issue is what happened to L, that was too bloody much, and that

in itself is cause for extreme alarm within our community. The anger,

aggression, isolation, mind control, humiliation, name-calling and the fear

he caused in her....no fucking way, not on my watch! If we know about this

and do nothing, we are simply not very good people and I want to be a good

person. L deserves to be treated with respect and dignity. This was an

extremely aggressive attack on her, and I believe he is dangerous and 100%

capable of harming a victim.

And the speed he was moving at....shocking! It took our ex-narcs years to

pull off what this super creep could do in a matter of 24 hours.

J and E were completely isolated from the rest of us, I was told

several times, that communication with them, needed to go through him, as

they were either both narcs, or one was a narc and terrorizing the other,

and then the story would change again. Every time I tried to chat with him

about contacting J & E, he would go into some rant, and I would be standing

there utterly confused.....like that wasn't a red flag! I asked repeatedly

for his cell number, J and E. I asked where they were staying and

he would say he didn't know and a few hours later he would tell me he had

been with them. I was told that they wanted to be alone, they kept moving

hotels, they were narcs, everything should go through him. I feel like a

complete fool for not spotting the manipulation immediately.

There were 6 women here that wanted very much to meet E and spend time

with her, and she was completely isolated from the rest of us. Thank God I

had a chance to meet her, and she is lovely. It is a real loss that we did

not get to spend more time with her. I am pretty pissed off about the E

issue.

And I feel like a fool, all the signs were there, I felt confused,

frustrated, unsure of what to do. All of the uncomfortable emotions were

coming up.

He was bad mouthing all of us to each other, making people feel unwanted,

unimportant.....but no worries, he was there for us! LMFAO!

Now he is scrambling, in full narc panic mode, trying to find himself an

ally, a flying money, someone to back up his shit.

This guy is really smooth, truly a master manipulator, and watching it

unfold right before my eyes, was a real wake up call.

The aggressive, deviant sexually charged assault against L, would have

landed his ass in a Mexican jail had we figured out what he had done to her

sooner. Mexico has laws too! And that shit simply doesn't fly here.

After hearing L’s story and the obvious trail he left 100% confirms her

accuracy and the account of the situation....OMG!

Telling me he wasn't getting my messages, not answering the phone in his

room, not opening the door to me when I was trying to find him. Telling me

in the morning that he would pass on info about beach get-togethers,

dinners out, going dancing etc. to J & E, and then saying he hadn't heard

from them and in the next moment saying he had been with them.

WTF? Honestly? Divide and conquer, it was a chess game, and we were the

chess pieces.

Getting us lost the night we were heading to Evenings and blaming J for

giving him bad directions and then saying he never talked to J about

it.....it was a shit show. I did call him out on that because his BS was

getting really thick at that point and he back paddled his way out of that

lie. It had nothing to do with J….nothing at all. He did not want us

going to Evenings, he was mad as hell all night because we were going

there, he later said they stole his Tequilla.....like WTF?

In passing while still driving I did say...hum, maybe not dude, they didn't

appear to be in need of booze, nor did they seem the type to steal

someone's Tequilla. Likely seriously? He was very angry, abnormally angry

about the Tequilla. And I am wondering if that is what triggered the attack

on L, because he was pissed about that. Thou he did seem angry most of

the time, he was really mad about that.

He didn't want to go to the beach, not to dinner, not out dancing, nada,

and he never wanted to go to Evenings that night. And he made sure he

controlled communication to ensure people did not get together. And thou I

was communicating with him on Skype he continued to say he never got my

messages. Then after he does all of that, he tells L, things are

disorganized.....well, no shit!

For those of us that were in direct communication with each other, we

managed just fine to meet-up, spend time at the beach, get together for

dinner and go out dancing. We were hanging out together at each other's

pools etc.

And we owe L a big night out dancing.....next year L, for certain!

And the crap he pulled in front of Andela's Rest. with L? Are you

kidding me? The brazen nerve of the shameless creep! Zero shame, zero

remorse, nothing but narc supply and a smirk! And speed in which he was

able to mind sweep L, is fucking shocking.

She was instantly under his control, willing to have sex with him, so he

would stop scaring her, stop calling her names, stop screaming sexually

deviant remarks at her. She was instantly scared, instantly willing to do

whatever it was going to take to calm him down and reduce the threat of

personal harm or violent attack, instantly on eggshells. And he did it

within a matter of hours. And Thank God, she knew how to calm that narc

down, because I 100% believe him to be a very real danger.

This guy is the biggest narc hiding within our community. The biggest

threat to victims and survivors....full stop! He is far creepier than HG.

by miles. Our community is a magnet for these creatures and they have to be

flushed out into the light where people can see them for what they are.

Bless your hearts each and everyone of you

Kim

 

Again, Kim is completely bashing David, providing details of how he was behaving in anti-social ways in his interactions with everyone at PV, not just L. How does this reconcile with the effusive comments about David she is making in the video? It does not. Kim is lying in her comments about never sending any emails. She is lying about how the interactions in PV went in her video as well.

Evening responds with t2_msg1_reply on Sun, 23 Sep 2018 11:22:22:

 

Just complete and total drama. On the tequila, he presented it like a gift

which is a normal thing to do when you are a gift in someone's home.

Regardless, if he didn't want to leave it why did he? We had a counter top

full of bottles of tequila and didn't need his, but its clear that he

wanted to look like a generous, polished gentleman but clearly hoped we

would tackle him at the door and force him to take back his "gift." He

sent a follow up email the next day where he thanked us for a nice time and

of course there is no mention of the tequila! Seems his "anger" was

contrived. The point here is mostly that he is establishing a pattern, and

sadly what happened was somewhat predictable and though I didn't know what

the harm would be exactly, I did feel protective of the women that came and

was trying to meet back up with you to make sure everything was okay for

the next two nights, and why I made it clear that I had extra room should

anyone need it. I didn't think it was a safe environment for anyone so

early in their recovery, and did see that L needed to be protected from

David because I didn't expect her to have decent boundaries because none of

us did/do early in our recovery, and because she was led to believe that

David was safe and trustworthy because of his association with Kim. In the

interest of transparency to use Kim's word, I think the nature of the

relationship between Kim and David as well as between Kim and other

channels needs to be shared with the viewers because at this point it

really does appear that Kim was vouching for David's character and

expertise and because of that thousands of people are now listening to him

having no idea who he really is. This is time for a simple "I was wrong"

video that makes it clear that you are no longer supporting David's channel

and that you see him as a dangerous threat to vulnerable people. *Kim

needs to quickly come out with a statement separating herself from David in

my opinion. *

Even outside of an overt attack there were problems but I wasn't clear what

the cause was, and am still not entirely clear on it. Obviously David was

a problem, for instance, why did he say he didn't want to come to my place

and why then did he come and why did his desires impact what anyone else

was doing? Did you, Kim, see any red flags in the months you've been

working together? It seems there was a discrepancy between the way you

both saw your involvement with this event. To me it looked like David was

going to assist Kim in putting it on, but when you came to my place it

seemed David was there as any other subscriber as he claimed no

responsibility for getting people from the airport and so on, but it seems

he also felt somewhat in charge as well in terms of dictating the agenda

and communication . What was your agreement or understanding with David

going into this event? Were there other participants that came to the meet

up that I didn't even know about? Were J and E David's

subscribers? Still trying to understand the sequence of events and get a

clear picture on what everyone was thinking going into this event.

Thank you,

Evening

 

So Evening responds that Kim needs to have a statement of separation from David and asks about any red flags from working together previously.

Kim’s next msg in the thread is t2_msg3 which is a reply to L on Sun, 23 Sep 2018 15:04:29:

 

Yes, L,

He had a bee in his bonnet about E for certain. You ladies did not see

E, but holy cow! Beauty Queen, sweet, soft-spoken, humble,

charming.....she was threatening to him in some way, for sure, I saw that

day one!

And the homophobia, gay bashing steadily. And blaming J for some sort of

exposure he had to gay men.

I contacted several of my closest gay friends and tried to explain his

aggression towards gay people, and they all said....that is a really bad

sign. Plus he had us take him to that Gay Resort, after going off about it,

10 minutes earlier.

Plus he said we were lost because of J….? I called him out on that.

L may remember I called him out on it, because things were starting to

seem off to me. 1 + 1 wasn't equally 2 anymore.

Plus he looked like he had been out all night, in the mornings when I

couldn't get him on Skype. I just went to his hotel and he looked like he

had been dragged behind a truck every morning. Plus he had an eye injury

that he just skipped over when I asked him about it.

I am going downtown right now to have dinner with D, so I have to run.

I will check this thread when I get back home.

TTYS

Kim

 

Again, condemnation and red flags regarding the behavior Kim witnessed from David. First, another young, pretty woman has elicited unusual behavior from David and Kim says she noticed. Second, blatant homophobic statements indicate a lack of awareness and deep seated bigotry. J had also mentioned being rather stunned by Davids strong homophobic statements. Third, Kim catching David in lies and calling him out. Fourth, David looks like hell. Getting "roughed" up the by gay men he so publicly criticizes? Sound like a pattern of publicly one thing, in private another?

The next message received was t2_msg4 from Kim on Mon, 24 Sep 2018 08:43:10:

 

Hi guys,

I just want to clarify a few things.

When I invited people to PV I invited victims and survivors, not narcs. I

believed David like everyone else to be a nice person. I did not invite a

narc here, any more than I invited a narc into my life. Narc's do not

appear to be narcs initially, as we all know.

I do not have any professional affiliation with David De Mars whatsoever.

It has never even been a topic of conversation between David and me or a

third party.

I did have a marketing manager for a brief period but found that middleman

marketing agent thing was poorly suited to my goals and my channel. His

name is also David, let's call him David O.

I did have a client named David and we can call him David N, an American

doctor living in Canada. I have a video up about him, with his photo on the

video.

David O did not imply that I worked with David De Mars, as he knows that to

be false. He was stating that I had worked with a man named David N in the

past the American trauma expert living in Canada.

I have never had any professional relationship with David DM, no

contractual agreements, nothing, nada, zilch, zip.....not a bloody thing.

He is a fellow Youtuber, I have talked to him on several occasions over

that past year+ and he has always been friendly, polite,

horribly victimized, he asked for my help, and I did my best to help him

based on what he told me.

There is no relationship between David and me to explain.

I quickly realized that David O or the concept of having an agent was not

well suited to me, or my channel so that was a short-lived relationship. I

get many requests for collaborations, and I now handle that myself, I

screen any that might be of interest through the regular channels, BBB,

reviews, and personal communication etc.

I have made several changes in marketing and I no longer do collabs, I now

work exclusively with channel sponsors that I have been able to get to

know, better understand and screen myself. Information gets lost when you

are working with a middleman.

I have promoted other channels, Kill Jezebel for example based on her

willingness to hold meet-ups and help survivors form friendships. She is

not a client of mine, nor do we have a professional relationship. We talk

on the phone or Zoom and she mentions an up-coming meet-up in New York and

I help her promote it. That's it, that's all.

I too work with friends from my channel for free, phone calls, Zoom, Skype

etc, as Evening does, so my channel is funded by donations, and commercial

sponsors, and thou I get loaded of requests for sponsorship agreements, I

do not like many of them. But will be working with a few over the next few

months up until Christmas.

That multiple "David" thing can be a little confusing. Which brings me to

the word confusing......I believe it is important to stay focused on facts,

and the real source of this situation. Blame shifting, incorrect

information, over examination will lead us away from the real issue.

Thou none of us had any idea what was happening, one person did. One person

was pulling the strings, one person was fully aware of what was happening

and what the end game was, and that person is David. David is responsible,

David and David alone. He was fully aware of his own personal intentions,

he knew exactly what he was doing and what he hoped to gain, and he

developed a plan that he executed with no regard for anyone but himself.

L decided to go to get something to eat with a person she felt

comfortable with, and she made this choice based on the simple, and

extremely common scenario...

"Hey, do you want to get something to eat?"

"Sure let's do it"

Nothing odd about that, whatsoever. A common exchange of words, something

we are all very familiar with, nothing odd, no red flags, simply "Do you

want to get something to eat?"

L is in no way to blame, there is no deeper exploration needed, as it

was late and she was hungry. When going to get something to eat presents a

threat thou no obvious threat was detectable, there is a problem, and once

again we must stay focused on the real problem.

Covert intentions, a creepy hidden agenda, soul sickness, delusional

thinking, and a need to control and manipulate good and trusting people are

the problem here, and all attention should be focused on David and the

development of a well-executed plan to expose a narc hiding amongst us.

Full stop.

I did explain in my videos that PV has a low crime rate, I rarely lock my

doors, the weather is good and the people are friendly, all true! I did not

in any manner imply that I would be assuming responsibility for anyone's

safety, that claim was never made, nor could anyone make a promise like

that. To make a promise like that I would have to assume control over

peoples actions and choices. I never implied that anyone should trust that

I would be assuming responsibility for their safety. People make choices

every day that could potentially put them in harm's way, and thou I assume

responsibility for my own personal choices, it defies logic that I would

assume responsibility for the choices of others.

Any assumption that I said people should trust that I was assuming personal

responsibility for their choices and actions is simply false and

misdirecting.

I 100% agree that I must make a retraction regarding my support of David,

but I will not be engaging in any sort of online shit show, no Youtube

chaos, no smear campaigns, as that is not my style. And as we all know

David already has a counter plan in place complete with a smear campaign,

and wild allegations.

He is reaching out now in an attempt to assemble a fleet of flying monkeys.

I agree no contact is the very best option right now. Silence is our best

defense and it is the most responsible, mature, integral step for us to

take.

I have no problem assuming responsibility for any role I played, but I am

never assuming the responsibility for the actions of a narc, I did that for

many years, it ended badly and I am never doing that again. That would be

counterproductive, it perpetuates victim shaming, it misdirects people

attention away from the real problem, the real bad guy, and a grave issue

that is destroying the lives of countless millions of good people the world

over.

At this point I am not sure where things went sideways exactly, I am not

sure if I overlooked any red flags, I am not sure what role I played in

this, thou I am actively pouring over past communications with him. And I

am trying to figure out what I might have missed if anything. David is a

master manipulator, he had an agenda, it was covert, he executed it

methodically, and he did it over a one year period, in my case. He gained

my trust, he used me and I am still feeling very unsettled about that.

I also feel that the time I spent with the girls, in particular, L,

D, J, and K, resulted in genuine friendships, in fact, I

consider each of them to be a very special friend. If their trust in me

hinges on me assuming all responsibility for the actions of a narcissist,

well, they are not the friends I believe them to be. And I am 100%

convinced beyond a question that they are my friends, friends I cherish and

hope to spend more time with at any and all future opportunities.

If I am mistaken about this, I certainly welcome their thoughts.

I believe that there is one focus, and that is

"There is a covert narc posing as a victim, preying on gravely injured

people"

As in all cases of narc abuse, vision is 20/20 when looking back on it. No

one should feel ashamed when manipulated or harmed by a master manipulator.

That's what they do, they are good at it, it is their area of expertise.

They do not think like us and it is impossible for us to understand the

working of their corrupted intentional deceptive minds.

I would also like to address something J mentioned, and that was the day

I was apparently "missing in action". The day J claims I was not in

contact with him, this is true, but it is not true of David. I had been

with David the night before and I was very clear that I would be at the

airport most of the day picking people up, which I did. David had been in

contact with J and E and thou he knew exactly what I was doing he

neglected to pass that info on to J & E.

I had also asked him to put together some sort of dinner meet-up plan as I

would not have the time to do so. But rather, he acted like he had no idea

where I was, and let on as if he was in the dark. He had told me that he

would assist with picking people up, he knew when J & E were arriving, thou

I did not and he neglected to mention their arrival times so I could pick

them up.

David was well aware that I do not have a cell phone and that I would lose

all contact once I left for the airport.

I would have gladly picked up J & E, and felt bad that I had not been able

too. I picked up David, L, D, J, and K and would have

liked to pick up everyone.

I received an email from J once they arrived and were at their hotel. I

do believe that David was aware of J and E's travel itinerary and if

I am wrong, please correct this for me.

David was grumpy, unwilling to participate, secretive, injected himself

into our communications with each other and I remained in constant contact

with him. Thou he rarely replied claiming he was not getting my messages.

Thou I was getting his when he did finally reply.

If he did not reply, I made the trip into Old Town and went to his hotel in

person in an attempt to communicate with him.

I think he became angry with J over some "gay" issue, which I am certain

was a further attempt to hide some weird agenda. In fact, he gay-bashed so

frequently I assumed he was gay and ashamed of it, and that is also the

assumption of my gay friends when I mentioned this strange behavior to them

very recently.

He brought up the topic of gay men with several other people, I was not the

only one he mentioned this too. And YES, it was weird! He also went on some

rant about trannies in Las Vegas, but I shut that conversation down fast,

as one of my best pals, is a man transitioned to a woman, and I did not

like his tone of voice. I detected hostility and I refused to have that

conversation with him.

Peoples sexual orientation is none of my fucking business and it is never a

consideration when forming friendships.

David was staying on the gay side of town, there are pretty gay men

wondering everywhere and this may have triggered him, brought up some

issues or enraged him.....God only knows how their damaged minds work.

All things considered, I thought that we all did our best to extend

friendship and respect, we were trusting and open-minded, we greeted each

other with an open heart and I do not think that we need to try and unveil

the secrets of the universe at this point. I believe that this is a cut and

dry case of narc infiltration. A group of recovering empaths could have

easily appeared too yummy to resist. Soul vampires want to destroy human

souls and there were plenty of them here.

A predator could easily see a group of recovering empaths looking to make

friends and reduce isolation as a giant target, a feeding ground of sorts

and too good to resist. And I believe that this is what we are dealing

with.

Unless I am missing something, which is always a possibility.

David's actions and choices were made by him. David's choices alone paint a

picture of a predator. A very intentional predator and it is my belief that